AU stock discussion forum
Search ASX Discussion

asx prices asx announcements

Existing Users - Login

Additional Forums

General

General 64,036 posts
Indicators 7,899 posts
Humour 6,182 posts
Newbies 6,122 posts
Sports 4,338 posts
Commodities 4,179 posts
Politics 3,031 posts
Tipping 1,761 posts
CFDs 1,215 posts
Day Traders 1,152 posts
Software 1,094 posts
Support 1,083 posts
IPOs 511 posts
Blue Chips 445 posts
Directors 92 posts

World

Dow Jones (DJIA) 3,691 posts
Gold 924 posts
Iron Ore 315 posts
Silver 195 posts
Crude Oil 158 posts
Zinc 56 posts
Uranium 48 posts
Coal 39 posts
Nickel 37 posts
Copper 31 posts

Forex

Forex Trading 2,243 posts
AUDUSD 545 posts
EURUSD 37 posts
USDCAD 20 posts
GBPUSD 0 posts
USDJPY 0 posts
EURYEN 0 posts

   New Forums Added

trading seminars, sydney, brisbane, melbourne



Site Disclaimer
All Stock Tips appearing on this website (the TopStocks ASX stock discussion forum) are submitted by the general public who are not licensed financial advisors. None of the information on this website is financial or investment advice, you should seek independent financial or investment advice by a licensed financial or investment advisor before entering into any position of financial risk. Before using this website, you must agree to the TopStocks Terms Of Use.

TopStocks ASX Blogs

Blogs are a great way to express your indepth research as they are not lost in the flurry of posts on the main discussion board.

Blog Control Panel
ASX BlogsRead Member Blogs
Read the Blogs contributed by members on TopStocks.
Create A New BlogWrite A New Blog
Write a Blog and have it seen by the thousands of visitors to this site each day.
View My BlogsManage My Blogs
View, Edit and maintain the blogs you've submitted.

HTML Link To This Blog (select the text and press CTRL-C to copy link)

Stock Research – Margin debt has always been for the SUICIDAL???

Category: Trading Diary Published: 26-02-2008 By: rhyajill
Millions of people use margin debt on a daily basis. Traditionally what this means is the following. You buy 1000 shares of IBM and let’s say you pay a $100 per share. You owe the brokerage firm $100,000. This is the market value of your account if it is the only item in your account. If you are a cash customer, you write a check for $100,000 by settlement date, and you own the 1000 shares of IBM free and clear of any encumbrances.

There is another way to go however. You can buy the $100,000 worth of IBM, and decide not to pay the full cost of the investment. Instead, you open a margin account with the brokerage firm, sign the appropriate documents and bingo, you can now buy that IBM by putting just 50% down, and the brokerage firm lends you the balance. They don’t do it for free however. They charge you a fee on the borrowed funds. Depending upon how good a customer you are (frequency and size of trades), the interest rate charged will vary.

In a sense margin debt is somewhat similar to how you bought your house. When you bought your house, you probably did not fully pay for it. Instead, you put more than likely, 20% down, and borrowed the rest in the form of a mortgage from the bank. The difference is that in financial world, you must put 50% down to purchase a stock.

The Other Big Difference

If you buy stocks on margin, and the stocks decline in value, you could get called on the debt. Brokerage firms feel very comfortable lending money for margin accounts because they hold the securities as collateral. Brokerage firms begin to feel very uncomfortable when those stocks begin to go down in value. If the stocks should go down in value to the extent where the underlying securities are no longer supporting the value of the account, the account is deemed to be negative equity. This then becomes the brokerage firm’s worst nightmare.

It’s gets even better. Hedge funds are called hedge funds because when they go long certain positions, they are supposed to be short other positions to OFFSET the long positions. Hedge funds therefore make their money on VOLATILITY. The laws allow hedge funds to borrow (leverage) their capital base. This means instead of putting down 50% on an investment’s market value, they will use as much as six times leverage. We have seen hedge funds go to ten times leverage. Recently, we have also seen hedge funds crash and burn.

This is what you need to know. Years ago, when I was with the largest investment firm in the world, we did an internal study. The study showed that the average life expectancy of a margin account before getting a margin call (the need to deposit more cash into an account) was 19 months. This means in our opinion that if you are a margin player, you will at some point get called on the account.

Are we in trouble with the amount of margin debt in this country? Go to our website for a continuation of this article, and find out for yourself, you are going to be SHOCKED at the answer





 
Discussion Tools & Research Stock Tipping Community My Account Contact Us
Most Recent
General
Indicators
Humour
Newbies
Sports
Trade Journal
ASX Announcement Search
ASX Corporate History
Member Blogs
TopStocks Guests
ASX Prices
ASX Director Trading
ASX Exploration Updates
ASX Trading Halts
Open Tips
Submit A Tip
Monthly Leaderboard
Monthly Prize
Site Activity
Site Legends
Update Preferences
Update Profile
View Profile
Advertising
Business Development
Terms Of Use Violations
General


stock discussion forum TopStocks Enterprises Pty. Ltd.
ACN: 115 513 927
Australia's Premier Stock Discussion Community.
www.topstocks.com.au